The Salaryman Is Retiring and the Stagiaire Has Opinions: Generational Fault Lines in Japan and France

🇯🇵 Japan · 🇫🇷 France

*By Priya Mehta, The Global Office

Somewhere in Tokyo tonight, a 58-year-old department head is drinking alone because his twenty-something subordinates declined the nomikai — politely, with the correct level of bowing, and without a flicker of guilt. Somewhere in Paris, a baby-boomer director is reading a stagiaire's email questioning the company's carbon strategy and wondering when interns acquired opinions. Both countries are running the same experiment — what happens when a generation that watched its parents give everything to the company decides not to — but they are running it on wildly different equipment.

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🇯🇵 Japan

🇫🇷 France

Japan: The Quiet Mutiny

The numbers describe a controlled demolition of the salaryman ideal. Only around 30 per cent of Japanese Gen Z now consider climbing the corporate ladder essential, against the near-universal ambition of their fathers' generation. The nomikai — the after-hours drinking session that once functioned as Japan's real performance review — is in structural decline: roughly three-quarters of workplaces held them in 2017, but by 2025 that figure had slid to about 60 per cent, and nearly half of young attendees now order mocktails or tea. A majority of Japanese workers — 56 per cent — now call after-work drinking unnecessary, and fully 80 per cent regard pressuring attendance as harassment. The legal system agrees, which helps.

What makes the shift interesting is the motive. Survey work suggests young Japanese don't hate drinking with colleagues — some polls find workers in their twenties among the most willing — they hate being conscripted. The operative concept is ki wo tsukau: the draining performance of deference that turns a Tuesday izakaya session into unpaid emotional overtime. Their parents accepted it as the price of belonging. The children have re-priced it.

Mobility completes the picture. Mid-career job changes, once a mark of failure, are rising fastest among the young and skilled, and Tokyo startups now advertise flexible hours and stock options to people whose fathers would have found the concept vaguely indecent.

France: The Revolution Will Be Value-Audited

France's generational divide runs through meaning rather than hours, because the hours were settled by law decades ago. The 35-hour week and the legal right to disconnect apply to everyone; what has changed is what the young demand on top. According to Ifop and Ipsos surveys, 74 per cent of French 18-to-28-year-olds say it is important or essential that their employer's values align with their own, and seven in ten want their work to be useful to society. The boomer generation sought stability, security, and social standing from a long career in one firm; their grandchildren treat the firm as a values proposition to be continuously audited.

The stereotype that follows — the workshy French youth — does not survive contact with data. Forbes France reports young workers are as invested in their jobs as older generations; they have simply relocated the investment from institutional loyalty to personal alignment. And French workplace culture gives them a traditional weapon for it: the national habit of open confrontation. The Local notes that French bosses expect workers to express and defend their views — meaning the generational argument happens out loud, in meetings, and nobody takes it personally. Mostly.

The Reckoning

Here is the neat irony: Japan's generational revolt is behavioural but silent, France's is loud but behaviourally mild. A young Japanese employee will never argue with the bucho — she will simply decline the nomikai, leave at six, and change employers in eighteen months, all without one confrontational syllable. Her French counterpart will argue with the director at length, in front of witnesses, about the company's moral obligations — and then stay fifteen years, because the CDI contract is sacred and the pension is good. Japan is changing what people do while preserving how they speak; France is changing what people say while preserving what they do.

On Hofstede's dimensions the two share extreme uncertainty avoidance (92 and 86), which explains why neither generation gap produces American-style job-hopping chaos. But Japan's masculinity score of 95 against France's 43 tells you whose revolution hurts more: in Japan, the young are dismantling the very achievement culture their elders equate with adulthood.

The Part the Brochure Left Out

r/japanlife — A foreign engineer at a mid-size Tokyo firm described the surreal experience of watching his 55-year-old manager organise a cherry-blossom drinking party that only the over-40s attended; the juniors sent a single group-chat sticker and went home. Five years earlier, he said, absence would have been discussed. Now the silence went the other way.

Quora — A writer contrasting salaryman life with Tokyo startup jobs noted that the same city now contains both universes: his friend at a traditional trading house does unpaid "face time" until his boss leaves, while he negotiates remote days and holds stock options — and recruiters treat his job-hopping as evidence of ambition rather than defect.

r/france — An expat manager recounted her first team meeting in Lyon, where a 24-year-old analyst opened by explaining why the project brief was wrong. She prepared for a personnel crisis; her French colleagues congratulated the analyst on a strong first week.

The Local France — A reader discussion on French working culture noted that bosses expect employees to argue their corner and that nothing said in the meeting follows you to lunch — a norm one British newcomer said took him a year to stop experiencing as personal attacks.

Quora — A respondent on whether Japan's overwork culture is changing said the honest answer is "it depends on the birth year of your boss": his 30-something team lead waves everyone out at six, while the division head two floors up still measures loyalty in visible exhaustion.

Conclusion

For the migrating professional, the practical question is which generational regime you'll be reporting to — because in both countries, the answer varies desk by desk. In Japan, interview the company's demographics as hard as its salary: a firm whose managers are in their forties may offer you the new Japan, while one run by men who joined in 1989 will offer you the museum. In France, the hours are protected whoever your boss is; what varies is whether your desire for meaning is treated as a generational quirk or a hiring criterion.

The deeper difference: in France the generations argue and stay; in Japan they don't argue and leave. Pick your poison — or, more usefully, pick your manager's age.